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  Remember how excited...

  by El Kabong in

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  ...we used to get when the circuit servant/overseer/area douchebag manager would come to our congregation and give his "special talk" on sunday complete with slides or a movie?

  it sure was a nice change from watching some guy up on the platform wearing a cheap suit and droaning on and on about nothing.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  we used to get when the Circuit Servant/Overseer/Area Douchebag manager would come to our congregation

  I still see the elders scurrying to get in their token shepherding calls during the final weeks before the CO visit, so that they can answer in the affirmative when asked during their CO/Elders meeting.

  I still see the service overseer scurrying to make his appointed visits to each book study group during the final weeks before the CO visit.

  I still see the secretary scurrying to the back room to handle tons of paperwork and to have them in order during the final weeks before the CO visit.

  I still see the PO scurrying about and approaching each publisher to insure that they can accomodate the CO in terms of transportation, field service, meals, Bible studies to go to...etc.

  Yes, when the CO is coming to town....there is excitement in the air!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

  P.S. I, in turn, got the CO excitedly frustrated when I refused eldership twice!
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  What injustice and abuse of power did you suffer at hand of elders?

  by flipper in

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  how many of us suffered in the jws from a lack of justice, love, or abuse of power by elders?

  how did it make you question what you believed or had been duped into believing?

  would be good to hear experiences so we can bounce ideas off each other on how it freed you from fear of authority or otherwise.

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  I found myself more encouraged by some humble brother or sister in the corner, who the elders would consider, inconsequential.

  Oh so true!

  My current "team" of elders in the congregation are task masters. Shepherding is done on a token basis the week before the CO visits the congregation. Any and all so-called counsel and direction that was given to me in this congregation wasn't based on fundamental Biblical truths. How do I know? I even asked them to crack open the Bible to help me understand the reasoning behind their direction. The answer I got : Read the publications. Funny, isn't it?

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  The End Is Near!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by Irish Rose in

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  yikes, the end is near!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  that's about the only thing i just can not get past.

  i have gotten over many, many of the things i grew up with, except that one.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  There are several in my congregation who say, "We are now living at the very end of the final part of the last days".

  Now really, how close to the end can you get?

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  2007 International Apostate Tour

  by lawrence in

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  let's show up at a few assemblies (close proximity) and have a p-a-r-t-y!

  screw the debates over words; when we spoke to the boe, cos, dos, and bethel we were dealing with murderers, pedophiles, and protectors of mean men and women, called brothers and sisters.

  now it's our time to have some fun within "the courtyard of the gentiles.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  I'm curious as to what the "theme" is for this annual event.

  This year the WTS has the theme "Follow the Christ" for their annual convention.

  What about this JWD International tour/convention?

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  The best WT elders are

  by Axeman in

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  i know some elders want to be real shepherds in the biblical sense and are constantly challenged by wt directions that are cold unloving & self serving and many leave because of this.

  such an elder who has his own conscience and is troubled by it does not make the best wt elder.

  im looking to name the characteristics that make the best wt elders.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  The best Watchtower elders have inflated egos.

  It just so happens that their egos are based upon their "works".

  Same story at every level in the WTS.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  GB member Gerrit Losch - Special Talk - the 6 comings of Christ (LONG)

  by yaddayadda in

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  he cites .

  then he moves on to the 6th and final coming of jesus.

  he cites .

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  Alligator Wisdom

  If it was posted on E- Watchman's give us the link to it.

  E-Watchman Link :

  http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=451

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  WTF are they even out in service for?

  by mkr32208 in

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  hey hey!

  been a while since i've started a topic.

  i've been gone for a long time and just check in from time to time but i had to comment on this.. .

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  Yes, it is a social setting at best with those going out in field service.

  Of course, those pioneering and doing it full time are "forced" into this setting. This makes for clashes in personalities. The lowly publisher seems to get along fairly well with the others in field service due to the lack of exposure. But from my experience, the pioneers always have something to say, usually negative, about the other pioneers. It goes to show that their "forced time" with each other is wearing them out.

  I've seen pioneer alliances in my congregations, past and present. They would have clicks and would entice any new unbaptized publisher into their fold. Sometimes there would be bickering between these pioneer groups about what the other pioneers were or weren't doing.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Famous Presiding Overseers

  by mtsgrad in

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  i think dr perry cox from scrubs would be a brilliant presiding overseer.. dr. cox is sarcastic, unpleasant and narcissistic.

  however, he is a very skilled doctor.

  he would not care what the co said, would ignore the watchtower or governing body at will.

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  Charles Philip Ingalls (portrayed by Micheal Landon) on the classic TV series "Little House on the Prarie".

  Fatherly justice with sensitivity along with being humble and a love for the human soul all coupled with being approachable.

  Nope, not in any of the congregations that I had been to.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Have You Ever Met A "Celebrity" or Actually See One Face To Face?

  by minimus in

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  while i was in new york i walked by two men and one looked like the comedian jackie mason whom i adore.

  i looked at him and said, "i just wanted to say how much i enjoy your shows.

  i've seen you perform a number of times".

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  Alligator Wisdom

  By the way, from personal experience the nicest celebrity I ever met was Julie Andrews (Mary Poppins, Sound of Music). She is very humble, classy and charming. Shared some time with her while drinking Ginger Ale before her scheduled departure.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Have You Ever Met A "Celebrity" or Actually See One Face To Face?

  by minimus in

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  while i was in new york i walked by two men and one looked like the comedian jackie mason whom i adore.

  i looked at him and said, "i just wanted to say how much i enjoy your shows.

  i've seen you perform a number of times".

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Several dozen and very frequently. In fact, high status celebrities that usually nobody can get near them.

  Madonna, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Paul McCartney, Tom Cruise...etc.

  Many bands: Guns n' Roses, Metallica, Rolling Stones, REM, U2...etc.

  It was all job related. I worked for many years in an industry where such ones needed to transport themselves to various locations domestically and internationally. In all honestly, after awhile they aren't such a big deal anymore. Maybe at the beginning. But after that, they are just regular people who don't seem NOTHING like they are portrayed in the tabloids.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)